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Re: new XLT
Last time I asked which was about two months ago, the answer was about a year and about $30k less than the diesel.
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Re: new XLT
With an XLT $30K less than an Austro powered NG and the Austro now a TBR engine (that apparently costs $55K plus labor), I'm curious where the benefit(s) is/are of the much heavier, much more expensive Austro.
Yes, I know the Austro is smooth running, fuel efficient and easy to start, but given all the problems with the Austro and the much higher costs of purchase and replacement, why would anyone want an DA40NG now? The Lycoming can be overhauled and (despite what some have posted on DAN) - is much more reliable than the Austro.
Yes, I know the Austro is smooth running, fuel efficient and easy to start, but given all the problems with the Austro and the much higher costs of purchase and replacement, why would anyone want an DA40NG now? The Lycoming can be overhauled and (despite what some have posted on DAN) - is much more reliable than the Austro.
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Re: new XLT
Ok, I'll bite. I've flown a fair bit behind both of these engines, and if I were buying a DA40 again it would boil down to this:
- Lycoming will give you the lowest Total Cost of Ownership by a significant amount
- Austro will give you more power at altitude and longer range
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Re: new XLT
Also in the NG's favor are longer maintenance intervals and the fact that jet A is widely available, costs less and has a very certain future.
Just my opinion but I think for brand new pilots, the IO-360 version may be just a touch more forgiving as well.
Just my opinion but I think for brand new pilots, the IO-360 version may be just a touch more forgiving as well.
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Re: new XLT
Adding in some random stuff here.
The Lycoming is certainly inexpensive to drive around even with the extra cost of gas. I just did a spreadsheet of my annuals and they average $2,468 for the last five years. Put another way, I have virtually no expenses relating to the engine itself, though other things (batteries, tires, etc.) sometimes eat a lunch or two.
I corresponded with GAMI yesterday and today and they assure me that G100UL should be available this year once the paperwork is completed; they say that there are no technical issues.
Finally, I live in the very mountainous west and am willing to fly a few minutes out of the way and/or at different times to avoid mountain waves. They can outperform almost anything shy of an F15.
Note that when flying gliders I like flying in mountain waves, but that's a different story. They call them free gas.
The Lycoming is certainly inexpensive to drive around even with the extra cost of gas. I just did a spreadsheet of my annuals and they average $2,468 for the last five years. Put another way, I have virtually no expenses relating to the engine itself, though other things (batteries, tires, etc.) sometimes eat a lunch or two.
I corresponded with GAMI yesterday and today and they assure me that G100UL should be available this year once the paperwork is completed; they say that there are no technical issues.
Finally, I live in the very mountainous west and am willing to fly a few minutes out of the way and/or at different times to avoid mountain waves. They can outperform almost anything shy of an F15.
Note that when flying gliders I like flying in mountain waves, but that's a different story. They call them free gas.
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