Tiedown for DA40

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Re: Tiedown for DA40

Post by chili4way »

With a hat tip to Boatguy, I made an Amsteel soft shackle for my DA40NG tail (see photo). Russ also pointed me to this website of how-to information (along with directions about how to tie just about any knot): https://www.animatedknots.com/ It includes Sandy's favorite, taut-hitch (aka midshipman's hitch), and the one I use Blake's hitch.

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Re: Tiedown for DA40

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@chili4way,

Thank you for that reference. I see that that site promotes a somewhat different version called the Midshipman's hitch, https://www.animatedknots.com/midshipmans-hitch-knot

The idea is the same, but the second loop is located inside the first one to obtain the same result under load. They each allow you to tie the hitch and to then slide it down to tighten the tie down. Either one is far, far superior to the hodgepodge of "knots" that I see at every airport, with loose lines that invite problems in a strong wind.

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Re: Tiedown for DA40

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If you're not as ambitious as Paul and don't want to make your own soft shackle, you can buy a climber's sling and luggage tag it through the tail. Less than $10, crazy strong, very light, no metal to bang around.

https://www.rei.com/search?q=slings
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Re: Tiedown for DA40

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Anyone know if the slide down will work for a DA42? I’m having trouble visualizing the large wings over a tiedown spot. The manufacturer says it’s good for 100” on the wings.
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Re: Tiedown for DA40

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What is a good length for a tiedown rope? Is there standing mooring distance between anchors to base the length on? I feel like I need about 20-25'.

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Re: Tiedown for DA40

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There is definitely no standard for the location of tie down rings. The shortest is when there is cable running across the ramp and the "tie down" is directly below the wing. The longest is when the rings are set for legacy single with a 30' wingspan. I don't think the distance to the takedown is every more than about 10', but then you need to take the hypoteneuse and have some ability to adjust it.

The problem I've had most often with the tail is the tiedown being too long.
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Re: Tiedown for DA40

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Boatguy wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 12:35 am There is definitely no standard for the location of tie down rings. The shortest is when there is cable running across the ramp and the "tie down" is directly below the wing. The longest is when the rings are set for legacy single with a 30' wingspan. I don't think the distance to the takedown is every more than about 10', but then you need to take the hypoteneuse and have some ability to adjust it.

The problem I've had most often with the tail is the tiedown being too long.
So how long are your ropes, as a ideal length in general?
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Re: Tiedown for DA40

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ingramleedy wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 12:46 am
Boatguy wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 12:35 am There is definitely no standard for the location of tie down rings. The shortest is when there is cable running across the ramp and the "tie down" is directly below the wing. The longest is when the rings are set for legacy single with a 30' wingspan. I don't think the distance to the takedown is every more than about 10', but then you need to take the hypoteneuse and have some ability to adjust it.

The problem I've had most often with the tail is the tiedown being too long.
So how long are your ropes, as a ideal length in general?
I don't know offhand. My plane, with tie downs is at the factory and I'm in Quebec. I might be able to tell you this weekend.
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Re: Tiedown for DA40

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michael.g.miller wrote: Tue Jul 20, 2021 8:01 pm Anyone know if the slide down will work for a DA42? I’m having trouble visualizing the large wings over a tiedown spot. The manufacturer says it’s good for 100” on the wings.
They will cut to fit your request, just ask.
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Re: Tiedown for DA40

Post by BkFlyer »

Regarding the earlier discussion on this thread from many years ago- I finally found the perfect solution to adapting Slidedown to the tiny tail tie down hole: soft loop motorcycle tie downs: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08YFDTQ5S?re ... b_ap_share

It’s a small length of heavy duty webbing with loops on both ends. One loop is twisted so that it can be fed through the tie down hole and looped around itself. lays flat again the tail. We have been using them for over 1 year to great effect. Super fast to out on and remove.
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