pilot relief tube
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Re: pilot relief tube
I guess it makes quite a bit of difference if your seats can recline or not. Mine's can and putting it in the furthermost backward position it becomes easier to pee in a bottle or any other thing as you may imagine. Even tilting your body a bit sideways becomes an option. It is a consideration for opting for reclining seats!
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Re: pilot relief tube
Actually Antoine, I think the thread is more disappointing than hilarious..
I always thought that masculine Diamond pilots were real men, with a 'tube' serious enough to use the storm window.. Of course I mean the storm window on the the opposite side for obvious reasons.
I always thought that masculine Diamond pilots were real men, with a 'tube' serious enough to use the storm window.. Of course I mean the storm window on the the opposite side for obvious reasons.
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Re: pilot relief tube
Seriously (and before I get stripped of a few of my stars by the moderator), I would not be wild about the idea that my residues would end up on the empennage, because this venturi probably would not prevent that?
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Re: pilot relief tube
Here is a solution for some of you. If it's good enough for NASA then it should be good enough for you.
http://www.chabotspace.org/assets/get-i ... diaper.pdf
http://www.chabotspace.org/assets/get-i ... diaper.pdf
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Re: pilot relief tube
There was the NASA astronaut that went and kidnapped her love rival and her plan was to put a diaper on her and drive her back to Florida in the trunk of the car. I wasn't picturing a NASA-branded item. That was silly of me.
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Re: pilot relief tube
I remember my glider flying .....up to 6 hrs x-country flights .... no possibility to land .... needed all the concentration to stay in the thermals .. and coming home. Then it was a MUST. On my DG100: wing level, stick slightly fwd (IAS 110) to get space for the bag … finally bag out of the small sliding window. (open end first) …….. wing cleaning after the landing.
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Re: pilot relief tube
OK, Colin. That is 7 years ago, you are nearly right there and your memory withstands age impressively better than your bladder. But my issue was a kidney stone as a result of dehydration. I simply did not carry enough water with me during 17 hours of flying two legs in hot climate. Yes, I quite enjoyed the first leg as I did not have to pee into the Gatorade bottle while having my co-pilot sitting next to me. Yes, I was stupid. Lesson learned.Colin wrote:I am not sure Kai should really be participating in this discussion, since I think he once nearly incapacitated himself by not drinking enough (since he didn't want to pee in the Gatorade bottle).
Back to the topic: I was not aware that it could be difficult to pee into a bottle in a Diamond DA40/42 cabin. I should stop making fun of it now and try to be more constructive. Thanks to all the input here I can see the advantages of a suction tube. After endless years of tinkering around with damned window latches, it is obvious that new challenges are on the way and I cannot overhear the calls of the community to design a a vibrating and well-padded relief tube.
Aart wrote:Actually Antoine, I think the thread is more disappointing than hilarious..
I always thought that masculine Diamond pilots were real men, with a 'tube' serious enough to use the storm window.. Of course I mean the storm window on the the opposite side for obvious reasons.
I understand your issues, Aart. If space is you problem, consider a reel to unwind your manliness like an HF antenna. Unwind far enough to not stain the empennage.Aart wrote:Seriously (and before I get stripped of a few of my stars by the moderator), I would not be wild about the idea that my residues would end up on the empennage, because this venturi probably would not prevent that?
(Internal note: all admins on this board envy you for your problems (obviously the German ones more) and publicly stripping off your stars was only one option discussed)
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Re: pilot relief tube
I have some friends that flew the U2 spy plane. They used the condom catheter. They would get all suited up and the catheter would slip off. Thats kind of a problem when you are wearing a full space suit.
The external male catheter is totally feasible; glider and fighter pilots use them all the time. You connect the condom-style catheter to a two foot rubber tube with a 2ltr water reservoir pouch used by cyclists, and place the pouch on the floor behind the seat. The catheters and tubing are available at medical supply houses and the water pouches at bike and camping gear shops. You can drink as much water and energy drinks as you want stress free.
The relief tube systems available through Aircraft Spruce use venturi valves so don't work at altitude and during the winter due to freezing. Also these would probably be impossibe to install on a DA42 because of the nose landing gear.
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The external male catheter is totally feasible; glider and fighter pilots use them all the time. You connect the condom-style catheter to a two foot rubber tube with a 2ltr water reservoir pouch used by cyclists, and place the pouch on the floor behind the seat. The catheters and tubing are available at medical supply houses and the water pouches at bike and camping gear shops. You can drink as much water and energy drinks as you want stress free.
The relief tube systems available through Aircraft Spruce use venturi valves so don't work at altitude and during the winter due to freezing. Also these would probably be impossibe to install on a DA42 because of the nose landing gear.
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Re: pilot relief tube
Can you re-explain this thing with the two-foot-condom-style catheter Nick? Age 71 ??? Boy oh boy