Temporary ADS-B for DA40XLS

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Temporary ADS-B for DA40XLS

Post by rwtucker »

I'm helping transport a 2008 XLS that needs ADS-B to a new location. The immediate need is a quick and easy to install ADS-B good enough to fly 1,000 miles and then consider a better long term solution that integrates fully with his G1000. Is there a quick even if temporary solution? uAvionix SkyBeacon? There are no avionics shops nearby so the work will be done in hangar with an IA sign-off. Is this possible or do we need to consider a plan B?
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Re: Temporary ADS-B for DA40XLS

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You can request a temporary exemption for a flight.

https://www.faa.gov/nextgen/equipadsb/adapt/
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Re: Temporary ADS-B for DA40XLS

Post by Rich »

A SkyBeacon would hardly be a trivial installation on a DA40, especially if it still has the original strobes installed. And there is no provision for a rear position light, so some kind of hack there, also.

The exemption route is worth a try, but there's no guarantee it'll be granted for a 1,000 mile flight.
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Re: Temporary ADS-B for DA40XLS

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I bought a 1946 Cessna 140 a year or so ago that had no ADS-B out. The airplane was located north of Chicago and I live south of Atlanta.

The waiver system mentioned a couple of posts ago worked great for me.
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Re: Temporary ADS-B for DA40XLS

Post by TimS »

Where in the world are you going? From an land perspective, the majority of the country is not covered by ADS-B mandate.
You will only need exceptions if you climb above 10K and leave class G.
So all you are needing the exception for would potentially be the start/end of the flight.

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Re: Temporary ADS-B for DA40XLS

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I flew my DA40 from 1,250 miles from Minnesota to Florida and back without ADS-B. Simply had to detour around the Mode C rings of MSP, STL, and TPA. The only Class C I had to avoid was Cedar Rapids and Huntsville. Only added ~30 miles or so to the trip.
Prior to finally equiping with ADS-B, I have used the ADAPT system for waiver / deviation 3 times for very short fligths to Class D airports inside Mode C and under Bravo, and each time the approval was immediate.
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Re: Temporary ADS-B for DA40XLS

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I agree with Bruce.

An exception is really only needed if your route requires you to fly through a class C or class B (including the 30nm mode c veil) airspace or you need to go above 10K. ADSB is not required to fly in class G, class E under 10,000 ft or class D airspace.

This of course assumes you plan to stay out of class A airspace above 18,000 which seems pretty likely ;)
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Re: Temporary ADS-B for DA40XLS

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MarkA wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 4:41 pm I agree with Bruce.

An exception is really only needed if your route requires you to fly through a class C or class B (including the 30nm mode c veil) airspace or you need to go above 10K. ADSB is not required to fly in class G, class E under 10,000 ft or class D airspace.

This of course assumes you plan to stay out of class A airspace above 18,000 which seems pretty likely ;)
Through or over class B or C. Class G is basically off the table. You can't really go anywhere without being at least in class E. And out in the Western States 10,000 is pretty inevitable.
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Re: Temporary ADS-B for DA40XLS

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Thank you all for this information. It is looking more and more like I need to go the temporary exemption route. We have to depart northern Idaho and land at KFFZ (Falcon field, 14 NM east of Sky Harbor). There are a couple of small firewall mount ADS-B units that I'll investigate further but none look promising at first glance.
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Re: Temporary ADS-B for DA40XLS

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Personally, I would get the exemption. Six hours of flying, I'd fly

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You could get a little more direct depending on how you feel about MOAs and high terrain.

Phoenix has always been really friendly to me in little single engine flights in from the mountains. I feel like they get the anxiety the added risk produces and they work to get you over lower terrain as soon as they can.

Re-fueling depends on your tanks (all sorts) and winds, but I would expect Ely would be a decent option.
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