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Mx and Flying during stay home order times

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:50 pm
by JohnLand
Hi fellow DAN members, with the stay home order several states have imposed, what are you'll's opinions regarding just flying around home airport for pleasure and picking and dropping of aircraft for necessary mx?

Re: Mx and Flying during stay home order times

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 7:13 pm
by Rich
I see no problem doing exactly that, especially if you're the sole user of the plane. In fact I took my plane over to Bend on Thursday to deal with a defective FS210. The shop is still operating (though the flight school is shut down). There were a number of guys out doing touch and goes and whatnot today here in Prineville. Just keep proper interpersonal distance and you're OK.

I do need to do some instrument approaches (with a safety pilot) that I'm deferring for the time being. And I know of check rides and such that have been cancelled.

Re: Mx and Flying during stay home order times

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 7:20 pm
by astaib
Here in France at the beginning we were allowed to fly alone and flight school were closed.
Now it is purely forbidden to do any kind of flight till 2 weeks and again minimum for 4 weeks.
It is very hard.
Ferry flight for maintenance are allowed But there are a lot of document to sign, flight plan to do ....
My airport is closed by notam as all Paris area are so no ferry flight allowed and my airworthiness certificate will end soon....

What a shitty time. But many people are dying in awful conditions, so i cannot complain

Re: Mx and Flying during stay home order times

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 7:32 pm
by Steve
I am a little surprised that the Regulatory Agencies (FAA, EASA) are not allowing temporary waivers of regulatory requirements (Annual Inspections, Flight Reviews, Medicals, IPCs, etc.) for a couple of months. Its not like my airplane will fall out of the sky the day after the Annual expires...

Allowing limited waivers would certainly enhance the spool-up of capacity when the quarantine regulations are eventually lifted.

Re: Mx and Flying during stay home order times

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 7:37 pm
by Rich
Steve wrote: Sat Apr 04, 2020 7:32 pm I am a little surprised that the Regulatory Agencies (FAA, EASA) are not allowing temporary waivers of regulatory requirements (Annual Inspections, Flight Reviews, Medicals, IPCs, etc.) for a couple of months. Its not like my airplane will fall out of the sky the day after the Annual expires...

Allowing limited waivers would certainly enhance the spool-up of capacity when the quarantine regulations are eventually lifted.
The FAA has issued a statement for medicals but nothing else so far. I see no problem with annuals, etc. At the moment shops seem to be operating. Some airport offices are unattended but personnel available on callout.

Re: Mx and Flying during stay home order times

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 7:45 pm
by astaib
Same with EASA. But when the airport is closed because ATC are temporary lay off and runway inspection company is closed you are screw.

Re: Mx and Flying during stay home order times

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 7:50 pm
by CFIDave
Steve wrote: Sat Apr 04, 2020 7:32 pm I am a little surprised that the Regulatory Agencies (FAA, EASA) are not allowing temporary waivers of regulatory requirements (Annual Inspections, Flight Reviews, Medicals, IPCs, etc.) for a couple of months. Its not like my airplane will fall out of the sky the day after the Annual expires...

Allowing limited waivers would certainly enhance the spool-up of capacity when the quarantine regulations are eventually lifted.
The problem isn't the regulatory agencies, which have already started relaxing requirements (e.g., the FAA extending the time for medicals to be current).

The big problem is the insurance underwriters: they still won't issue aircraft insurance if you have an expired medical, for example. Without insurance company cooperation I expect a lot of grounded planes and pilots soon.

Re: Mx and Flying during stay home order times

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 7:54 pm
by dgger
Steve wrote: Sat Apr 04, 2020 7:32 pm I am a little surprised that the Regulatory Agencies (FAA, EASA) are not allowing temporary waivers of regulatory requirements (Annual Inspections, Flight Reviews, Medicals, IPCs, etc.) for a couple of months. Its not like my airplane will fall out of the sky the day after the Annual expires...
In the EU this is in the turf of the member states. Each CAA has to decree deviations they are willing to make. Here are some of those made in Germany:
https://www.lba.de/SharedDocs/Startseit ... orona.html (scroll down for English)

Re: Mx and Flying during stay home order times

Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2020 8:28 pm
by rdrobson
JohnLand wrote: Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:50 pm Hi fellow DAN members, with the stay home order several states have imposed, what are you'll's opinions regarding just flying around home airport for pleasure and picking and dropping of aircraft for necessary mx?
Our mx shop is continuing to operate business as usual right now. Also, I'm trying to make a point of being in the air every week or two at the most in order to keep the rust off myself and the airplane.

With these fuel prices, I just wish I had somewhere to go!

--Ron

Re: Mx and Flying during stay home order times

Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2020 11:26 pm
by CBeak
Flying around the home airport, on very short flights, is what we’ve been doing. Spring weather has been bipolar and very windy, though. I am finding that the DA40 feels every little bump to a greater extent than my old C172.