OK, I've owned this plane for almost 16 years now, and just now decided to investigate a few details that have been nibbling at the far reaches of my limited consciousness. (Germane to this discussion: I have the original VM1000 engine monitor system.)
1. MAP gauge reads .2 in. low. Certainly when the engine is not running and, as far as I can tell, always.
2. 11 GPH vs 10 GPH at high cruise (2400, WOT, 7000 ft. PA, 6700 ft. DA) might, maybe, possibly, be worth 1 knot (144+/- vs 143 +/-. But it does knock 15 deg F or so off CHTs. (One needs to be very patient getting these measurements, given that the air refuses to be super-calm.)
3. The fuel gauges will actually give you gallons readings even after passing the "Lo" annunciation. Basically it alternates between the two displays. My motivation here was to drain a tank so I could find out what it really holds, as I have a suspicion the tanks hold a bit more than 20 gallons per side. I took the left tank down to where it said zero, kept it up for a bit after that, then chickened out and switched tanks. (I once had an enlightening experience running a tank dry in flight in a fuel-injected Comanche )
4. The plane will run quite a long time on my left tank (to be precise) showing 1-2 gallons. Even at zero, it kept it up longer than I would have thought. I could have been tapped into unusable fuel in this region, as it was nice, coordinated straight-and-level flight.
Next step: Note what the left tank actually takes when I fill it. (I don't refill before putting the plane up after the flight to avoid having fuel expansion fill the hangar with flammable fumes.)
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enlightening experience
That's a good term. I could never bring myself to run a tank dry on the DA40 and you can damage the DA42 doing it. Someone with an RV7 did it with his wife onboard and "promised never, ever to do that again." When someone mentioned it must have been quiet when the engine stopped firing someone else piped up "my screaming is NOT quiet."
I will be interested to see what an empty tank takes to fill.
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Time for my MEA CULPA. I was on an Angel Flight in my C310 and running both engines on my Aux tanks. We were within 25 miles of the destination when all of a sudden one engine got quiet. I immediately switched to main tank on that engine and while doing so the other engine got quiet before I could switch to the main tank. I never said anything to the passengers, and they never said anything to me. I have no idea if they even noticed or were concerned, but I never even came close to doing that again. Lesson learned!Colin wrote:enlightening experience
That's a good term. I could never bring myself to run a tank dry on the DA40 and you can damage the DA42 doing it. Someone with an RV7 did it with his wife onboard and "promised never, ever to do that again." When someone mentioned it must have been quiet when the engine stopped firing someone else piped up "my screaming is NOT quiet."
I will be interested to see what an empty tank takes to fill.
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How is bad for the plane?Colin wrote:enlightening experience
That's a good term. I could never bring myself to run a tank dry on the DA40 and you can damage the DA42 doing it. Someone with an RV7 did it with his wife onboard and "promised never, ever to do that again." When someone mentioned it must have been quiet when the engine stopped firing someone else piped up "my screaming is NOT quiet."
I will be interested to see what an empty tank takes to fill.
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The diesel high pressure fuel pump will not be happy, nor will your wallet when you have to repair/replace the pump. This goes along with the AFM saying NOT to shut down the engines with the "fuel cutoff"!
Section 4 - Normal Operating Procedures - Shut Down
CAUTION
Do not shut down an engine with the FUEL SELECTOR valve.
The high pressure fuel pump can otherwise be damaged.
You would be essentially doing the same thing running the tank dry!
(DA42TDI AFM - I'm guessing other diesel powered DA42/62 AFMs will have the same "CAUTION")
Section 4 - Normal Operating Procedures - Shut Down
CAUTION
Do not shut down an engine with the FUEL SELECTOR valve.
The high pressure fuel pump can otherwise be damaged.
You would be essentially doing the same thing running the tank dry!
(DA42TDI AFM - I'm guessing other diesel powered DA42/62 AFMs will have the same "CAUTION")
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You are correct, it is in the DA62 AFM. Same wordingjb642DA wrote:(DA42TDI AFM - I'm guessing other diesel powered DA42/62 AFMs will have the same "CAUTION")
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One small followup. I haven't yet refilled that left tank. (You would think that being retired gives you lots of opportunities to fly - you would be wrong ). But I was able to drain the last of the usable fuel out of it (after running at zero gallons indicated for a very few minutes) and measure that remainder. The procedure was to select the left tank then let it drain it out of the bottom of the strainer into a measuring cup. Out came just over half a gallon - more specifically about 4-1/2 US pints. So the fuel level indication was accurate enough for operational purposes.
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Refilled the tank today to the tippity top. Just short of overflow. It took 20.9 gallons, according to the fuel pump meter.
FWIW, the right tank fuel gauge read 5 gallons left and it took 14.6.
FWIW, the right tank fuel gauge read 5 gallons left and it took 14.6.
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