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Re: Has anyone already placed an order for a Panthera?

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Any news of the Panthera from Aero Friedrichshafen?
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Re: Has anyone already placed an order for a Panthera?

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Not much that I have found. There is a link on Pipistrel's FaceBook page that takes you to the Pipistrel's website with an announcement that the Panthera would be on display at Aero Friedrichshafen with an IO-540 in it.

http://www.pipistrel.si/news/do-not-mis ... -expo-2017

Nothing more unfortunately. I would have thought they'd be pushing it more than they are.
I would truly love to read a comparison between it and the forthcoming DA50. It would be wonderful to have a little more choice in aircraft. The Panthera certainly had my attention although diesel would be my first choice. Still...
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I should have a web page where I collect all these planes that seem amazing but I don't think I will ever see fly. There's an amphib (Lisa?) that is like a DA40 gliding across the water on hydrofoils. I love every second of video they shoot of it. I don't think I'll ever see one in the wild.
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Re: Has anyone already placed an order for a Panthera?

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My perception of the Panthera.
- Vision: a beautiful aircraft from a successful relaive newcomer that wants to disrupt the GA scene by providing unmatched aerodynamic efficiency. 10 GPH at 200 knots with 4 on board...
- Reality check: the prototype falls short of the vision by more than 20 knots. Initial climb also seems to be subpar.
- Reaction: put a bigger engine into the concept, increase MTOW to accommodate the increase in empty weight and the additional fuel.

And then someone must have asked a few prospects: would you buy THIS or an SR22...

End of the story?
What happened to the Italian factory?

What can Diamond Canada learn from this?
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Be a subcontractor for the SR-22 ?? :)
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... or they could make kits and sell them into the US homebuilt market. That could work...
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Yeah, I remember those billionaires that have made their fortune in the aircraft kit market.

Come to think of it, the billionaire that started Ikea should make a flat pack airplane.
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Rick wrote:A little more information here: http://www.flyingmag.com/panthera-evolv ... tion-nears
They should have no problem getting the 200 kts. out of the IO-540 ROP. The fuel burn will probably closer to 16 gal. hr. If they can hold the pricing projected they will destroy Cirrus.
There's a reason you don't see a diesel on this plane. You would never get to the target speeds or useful loads with a diesel.
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Tommy, your last statement is at least questionable. If you compare the IO-540 (depending on the version 250hp @ 217kg weight) with for instance the CD230 (230hp @ 204kg), you see, that there is no big difference. The lower power consumption gives further advantages.
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