Going to OSHkosh 2019???

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Re: Going to OSHkosh 2019???

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CFIDave wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:58 pm Will be there all week, working at the Diamond exhibit about 1/2-time.

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Would you be kind enough to post whatever announcements Diamond makes either here or on another thread. They certainly said back at Avalon that they would have some major announcements to make at Oshkosh, so look forward to hearing what is finally released.
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Unfortunately I had to head home after a couple of wonderful days at the show. I never thought I would get to OSH, let alone fly in which was quite the experience that I will never forget, and hopefully do again. The GA camping was much better than I thought it would be, and the whole show is just massive -- a must-do.

Obviously I sought out the Diamond stand as a priority. Seemingly nothing new, and when I asked about "the announcement" I was told there would be one, but there was no guidance as to when/where and so on. I would have thought Diamond could have had some indication on when they would be making the announcement, or tried to organize a little event or something for owners / potential customers?? My buddy and I were invited to a bunch of cocktail and other functions from other manufacturers, and by the way not just Cirrus, but smaller outfits as well. The "cringe-worthy" moment was when I was looking at the DA62, there was a guy there who obviously was a genuine potential customer, asking all the right questions. The representative manning the DA62 display could hardly answer anything, and when asked about useful load they rep said "I don't really know much about them, and although it can have 7 seats it's essentially a 4 seater and room for a few bags". I know Diamond has a distributor / sales network model... but come on Diamond, a little "quality control" for those representing (and hopefully selling) your product?

Yesterday I was fortunate enough to have the opportunity to fly the G2 Cirrus Vision Jet. I thought it was going to be an "autopilot on @ 500ft" type experience, but I was really blown away by this plane. We flew for about an hour, and I had the autopilot on for maybe 5 mins. The thing handles wonderfully. Put it into a stall... non-event. Steep turns were delightful. Landing has a weird kinda nose down sight picture, not bad... just something to get used to, like all different planes. Much better IMHO to hand fly than a SR22. Cirrus have been talking about how they have made the G2 cabin a lot more quiet than the G1... if that is indeed the case, the G1 must be REALLY noisy then. The plane I flew is circa $3m all-in with maintenance program and so on, so is in a very different price bracket to Diamond, however there is no doubt that over time there will be a relatively good size fleet of these planes. Quick video from yesterday's flight... takes a little while to load though... https://gopro.com/v/rD1mgn4y4ew1G
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Re: Going to OSHkosh 2019???

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Thanks to Bernie for nice chat yesterday. And CFIdave today. It was nice meeting you and have a face behind the forum nickname. We’ll start departing back home to Finland tomorrow, osh was just a great experience!

And yes, Diamond booth was a bit apathic, in terms of representatives and activity. We got water ”as owners” each day, but thats about it. We sat down, no one talked to us, folks just seemed to chats with other workers. This is just few brief glimpses of the booth staff...
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AndrewM wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:05 pm Obviously I sought out the Diamond stand as a priority. Seemingly nothing new, and when I asked about "the announcement" I was told there would be one, but there was no guidance as to when/where and so on. I would have thought Diamond could have had some indication on when they would be making the announcement, or tried to organize a little event or something for owners / potential customers?? My buddy and I were invited to a bunch of cocktail and other functions from other manufacturers, and by the way not just Cirrus, but smaller outfits as well. The "cringe-worthy" moment was when I was looking at the DA62, there was a guy there who obviously was a genuine potential customer, asking all the right questions. The representative manning the DA62 display could hardly answer anything, and when asked about useful load they rep said "I don't really know much about them, and although it can have 7 seats it's essentially a 4 seater and room for a few bags". I know Diamond has a distributor / sales network model... but come on Diamond, a little "quality control" for those representing (and hopefully selling) your product?
Pehu wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 1:59 am And yes, Diamond booth was a bit apathic, in terms of representatives and activity. We got water ”as owners” each day, but thats about it. We sat down, no one talked to us, folks just seemed to chats with other workers. This is just few brief glimpses of the booth staff...
Sorry to say that but these two quotes above show usual and unfortunately expected behavior and attitude from DAI side.
AndrewM wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:05 pm Yesterday I was fortunate enough to have the opportunity to fly the G2 Cirrus Vision Jet. I thought it was going to be an "autopilot on @ 500ft" type experience, but I was really blown away by this plane. We flew for about an hour, and I had the autopilot on for maybe 5 mins. The thing handles wonderfully. Put it into a stall... non-event. Steep turns were delightful. Landing has a weird kinda nose down sight picture, not bad... just something to get used to, like all different planes. Much better IMHO to hand fly than a SR22. Cirrus have been talking about how they have made the G2 cabin a lot more quiet than the G1... if that is indeed the case, the G1 must be REALLY noisy then. The plane I flew is circa $3m all-in with maintenance program and so on, so is in a very different price bracket to Diamond, however there is no doubt that over time there will be a relatively good size fleet of these planes. Quick video from yesterday's flight... takes a little while to load though... https://gopro.com/v/rD1mgn4y4ew1G
Great opportunity, nice flight and video!
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Re: Going to OSHkosh 2019???

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So this was my somewhat interesting route into OSH. We flew over lake Michigan and at that time we knew arrivals were closed, due to the prior rains making the ground too soft to park, however we we "hoping" it would be opened up around the time we arrived. So we flew over Ripon, then decided to enter the hold over Green Lake, wait a while and see what would happen. When entering the hold, the controller came on and said there would be delays to opening of AT LEAST 1.5hrs, so we diverted north and using my iPhone booked a hotel room for the night. On our way north I received a txt message from OSH saying GA Camping was now open, so we turned around and flew to Ripon, found a gap in the traffic, entered the Conga Line of traffic and in we went following the train tracks! I have to say, the new ForeFlight 3D flight review function in Track Logs is pretty cool, as I was able to review the entire approach with altitude, speed, bank angle (which was a little interesting turning final :shock: ) and so on.
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I guess no announcement from Diamond? :)
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Makes me wonder if perhaps they have an STC or something going on with the FAA and were hoping to get the green light by Oshkosh. But didn't.
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Re: Going to OSHkosh 2019???

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Pehu wrote: Sun Jul 28, 2019 4:59 pm I guess no announcement from Diamond? :)
Well I posted a Major Announcement in the “Hangar Talk” forum that announced there was no announcement.

It got promptly deleted because you know a sense of humor in the “Hangar Talk” forum is frowned upon. :roll:
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